Comedy writer Sarah Morgan talks to comedians about what scares them, and attempts to triangulate the sweet spot where comedy and horror meet.

Guests bring on a thing from their childhood that scared them, a movie or TV scene that gives them the shivers, and an irrational fear that they can’t shift.

Sarah’s guest is The Allusionist podcast host Helen Zaltzman.

Previous guests have included Pointless’ Richard Osman, Phil Nichol, Jason Manford and Prevenge’s Alice Lowe.