BBC Studios podcast producer Ella Watts and Podcast the Newsletter’s Lauren Passell are coming to bring you 90 minutes of back and forth between two people who love podcasts–one obsessed with audio drama (Ella) and the other who is into non-fiction shows (Lauren)

Ella and Lauren will be using each other’s suggestions as a launchpad for their next suggestions. This talk promises to be a half game, half discovery bonanza that will widen your listening horizon no matter which kind of audio you think you prefer.

Lauren Passell is the founder of Tink Media, a podcast marketing and PR company, the editor of Podcast the Newsletter, and a curator for the Hark Audio podcast discovery app. She loves a lot, but listens to The Daily Zeitgeist twice a day.

Ella Watts is a podcast producer at BBC Studios and an audio fiction expert. She’s a regular contributor to BBC Radio 4 Extra’s Podcast Radio Hour, and has worked extensively with BBC Sounds. Ella is also the co-curator of London Podcast Festival’s Audio Drama Day.